What is sliming?

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:31 PM   #1
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What is sliming?

I keep reading about it... it worries me since I'm still on liquids but I know I will be on mushies and solids soon and want to know the warning signs and after effects of eating something that will not pass...
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Okay, there are two things you need to learn the names and properties of:

PB = Productive Burp (Who the hell came up with THIS term?)...This is when food goes down too fast or is not chewed enough and gets caught at the opening into the pouch. When it gets STUCK you get a knot-type feeling in mid-chest which indicates that the food isn't going anywhere. Sometimes you can suffer through it and it will go down slowly. Sometimes you need to go to the bathroom and "get rid of it" for relief. It is like a vomit without some of the accompanied "nastiness"....the food somes back in the same condition it went down in...just chewed...there is no stomach acid with it (like a regular puke...that nasty sour stuff)...and it is often NOT accompanied by full stomach contractions like with a regular vomit, more like it comes from the throat up. The PB food coming up can be accompanied by sliming....

Sliming = When the stomach sense that food is coming, it releases mucus into the mouth and esophagus and stomach in order to help facilitate the movement of the food down the canal. When food is stuck, it's like a backed up toilet. The stomach goes "Oh, here comes food!": and starts secreting, but when the food doesn't move, the mucus backs up into your throat and mouth. You wind up have a huge mouthful of thick saliva (oh the bubbles you can blow! :-) )that must be spit out. Sometimes sliming precedes a PB, sometimes the food is just slow going down and you slime a little. Suffice it to say, it's worth a trip to the bathroom to spit it out.

WORD OF CAUTION: NEVER NEVER NEVER try to "flush" stuck food down with a liquid. It works on a regular body, but not the way we are constructed now. It is a recipe for disaster. Like throwing a gallon of water into a clogged up toilet, it's gonna do nothing but sit on the clog and come back up.
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Does the stuck piece of food readily come out (in the bathroom) or do you somehow need to induce it?
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Nope, for me just the act of leaning over many times brings it up. It's actually pretty high up in the chute and doesn't have too far to come back up.
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I was also wondering what these terms were, had the sensation of something being stuck the other day, couldn't resist a small peice of chicken. Drank some pineapple juice and it went very well, other suggested pineapple juice over anything I think if I drank water it wouldnt have helped . didnt try that again!
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You will know when it happens, its so gross!
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Oooooooooohhhhhh yeah. When you do either, you will most certainly KNOW it....now you'll just be able to put a name to it too...
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kacee,

This is by far the best description I have seen to date of the two items.
I also agree that it is never, never, never a good idea to try and flush food down that is blocked.

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Okay, there are two things you need to learn the names and properties of:

PB = Productive Burp (Who the hell came up with THIS term?)...This is when food goes down too fast or is not chewed enough and gets caught at the opening into the pouch. When it gets STUCK you get a knot-type feeling in mid-chest which indicates that the food isn't going anywhere. Sometimes you can suffer through it and it will go down slowly. Sometimes you need to go to the bathroom and "get rid of it" for relief. It is like a vomit without some of the accompanied "nastiness"....the food somes back in the same condition it went down in...just chewed...there is no stomach acid with it (like a regular puke...that nasty sour stuff)...and it is often NOT accompanied by full stomach contractions like with a regular vomit, more like it comes from the throat up. The PB food coming up can be accompanied by sliming....

Sliming = When the stomach sense that food is coming, it releases mucus into the mouth and esophagus and stomach in order to help facilitate the movement of the food down the canal. When food is stuck, it's like a backed up toilet. The stomach goes "Oh, here comes food!": and starts secreting, but when the food doesn't move, the mucus backs up into your throat and mouth. You wind up have a huge mouthful of thick saliva (oh the bubbles you can blow! :-) )that must be spit out. Sometimes sliming precedes a PB, sometimes the food is just slow going down and you slime a little. Suffice it to say, it's worth a trip to the bathroom to spit it out.

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