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Old 02-25-2008, 11:37 PM   #1
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Can Nurses Take A Course To Learn How To Do Fills?

Having a hard time finding a doctor to do fills. Does anyone know if a nurse can take a course on learning how to do fills in Ontario, Canada. Just an idea.
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Old 02-26-2008, 01:10 AM   #2
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Nurses probably cannot do fills. If they could, they would be doing them. Surgery is the best use of a surgeons time. All time the dr. spends doing fills, is time he cannot do surgery. It would benefit the dr.s practice if someone else could do fills. So, it must be a procedure that has to be done by a dr.
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:43 PM   #3
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vucarre, What????
Dude, what you said didn't make any sense to me. You said the best use of a surgens time is doing surgury, so wouldn't it be benificial for him to be doing surgury instead of doing fills? Then you said it would be beneficial for him for someone else did it. So which one is it???? And why does a doctor have to be the one that does it. People on this site go to nurses and to clinics with nurses, If I'm not mistaken.
Just wondering?????
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I believe that many RNs are trained for this, but I wouldn't know how they'd go about requesting that training or whatever...
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Many RN's and PA's and NP's do fills. I believe they do them under the auspices of an MD who is Inamed or J&J certified in the US. I don't know how anyone would go about the training and licensure or certification needed to successfully start doing fills without working under an MD's license. I'm sure there's a way, though.

Are you asking for yourself? That is, are you asking if you can get trained and fill yourself? I would think that would be opening up a big can of worms. I'd be tempted to fill or unfill myself way more often than suggested by the manufacturer.
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Nurses doing fills

In NY State, nurse practitioners working in collaboration (NOT supervision) with a surgeon can do fills. At the bariatric program I attended, the NP does most the pre-op work up and does follow up after surgery including fills. The NP is specially trained; as is the physician to do the fills.

Physician assistants can probably do fills also. PA's work under the supervisoin of a physician. They would have to be trained also.

I don't know if RN's can do fills in this state - I think it would be beyond their scope of practice.

If you have any bariatric programs near you; ask if the have an NP or PA.
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:23 PM   #7
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Believe it or not... a Medical Assistant in Dallas where I had my surgery done did my last fill. I was on the table when she approached me and started doing my fill. I have had problems with it since then. I am now trying to find another Dr for my aftercare and fills. I am a Medical Assistant and I know she is not qualified to do a fill. Dr Jayaseelan at Medical City did the surgery. I know they are charging my Insurance $250.00 a fill and I think the Dr should be doing it not someone that went to school for 8 months for a half day.
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My doctor's nurse does my fills. Why wouldn't they be able to? Nurses do shots and other procedures
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Believe it or not... a Medical Assistant in Dallas where I had my surgery done did my last fill. I was on the table when she approached me and started doing my fill. I have had problems with it since then. I am now trying to find another Dr for my aftercare and fills. I am a Medical Assistant and I know she is not qualified to do a fill. Dr Jayaseelan at Medical City did the surgery. I know they are charging my Insurance $250.00 a fill and I think the Dr should be doing it not someone that went to school for 8 months for a half day.
I'm just curious if you had your fill done at the Surgery Center of Richardson, TX? My husband was filled by a MA there who cause significant pain * bruising to him. When I called to make a formal complaint (I was not filled by her the same day) I was notified there is a process to get "Her" removed - and I complied in making this a formal complaint - along w/my surgeon who uses SCR.
Feel free to PM me if this is your situation and the remedy we took to ensure her departure. I'm not one to get one fired - or cause a stink, I sent photos to the Center and they were distraught and want to fix the situation....
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Believe it or not... a Medical Assistant in Dallas where I had my surgery done did my last fill. I was on the table when she approached me and started doing my fill. I have had problems with it since then. I am now trying to find another Dr for my aftercare and fills. I am a Medical Assistant and I know she is not qualified to do a fill. Dr Jayaseelan at Medical City did the surgery. I know they are charging my Insurance $250.00 a fill and I think the Dr should be doing it not someone that went to school for 8 months for a half day.
Each state has different regulations - but a medical assistant!!??? No wonder malpractice law suits are so frequent.
I would talk to the doctor and tell him. However if you do not feel comfortable with doing this you could inform the insurance company - the MD is committing fraud by billing for a procedure that he's not doing. As an NP in NYS; I cannot bill for a procedure that I do not do. I can bill for procedures that I do; but the reimbursement amount is less than an MD's amount (even though I am qualified and lawfully able to do it).
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My doctor's nurse does my fills. Why wouldn't they be able to? Nurses do shots and other procedures
As a former nursing professor, I must say I disagree with you. Giving an injection is much less serious than doing a fill in a lap band. Also, nurses are taught in school to do routine procedures; not a lap band fill.
Laws vary from state to state regarding acceptable nursing practice. However, I would suggest a certification to perform fills is needed - this would imply competence in the area.
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I'm just curious if you had your fill done at the Surgery Center of Richardson, TX? My husband was filled by a MA there who cause significant pain * bruising to him. When I called to make a formal complaint (I was not filled by her the same day) I was notified there is a process to get "Her" removed - and I complied in making this a formal complaint - along w/my surgeon who uses SCR.
Feel free to PM me if this is your situation and the remedy we took to ensure her departure. I'm not one to get one fired - or cause a stink, I sent photos to the Center and they were distraught and want to fix the situation....
No, I did not have it done at the Surgery center. I had it done there at Medical City. I have not been able to eat solid food very well at all since then.I think she put to much saline in. I just can't find another Dr that will see me for my aftercare. I am very unhappy with the care I have received there.
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No, I did not have it done at the Surgery center. I had it done there at Medical City. I have not been able to eat solid food very well at all since then.I think she put to much saline in. I just can't find another Dr that will see me for my aftercare. I am very unhappy with the care I have received there.
You sound too tight IMO - I asked about the surgery center because I met another patient of Dr Jayaseelan there. I've had no problems, husbands first fill was a bad experience...but our Surgeon more than took care of our concerns. You may want to give them a call as an alternative option.
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My fills are always done by a nurse. I have had 5 fills so far, each one was virtually painless and took less than a minute. At the clinic where I had surgery, it is my understanding that it is always the nurses who do fills.
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