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03-15-2008, 01:12 PM
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#1 | | Lather, Rise and Repeat Thread Starter  
Join Date: Feb 2008
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City: Atlanta State: Georgia | 5 DAY POUCH TEST - Anyone heard????
I saw this on another board, the website is: Surgical Weight Loss 5 Day Pouch Test
Here is a description from the website: The 5 Day Pouch Test by Kaye Bailey
Does my pouch still work?
Have I broken my pouch?
Have I ruined my tool?
These are questions many weight loss surgery post-ops find themselves asking occasionally during their journey. Perhaps it feels like we can eat more food or we know that we are eating more food. Sometimes these questions are asked when there has been a weight regain.
This is the 5-day plan that I have developed and used to determine if my pouch is working and return to that tight newbie feeling. And a bonus to this plan, it helps one get back to the basics of the weight loss surgery diet and it triggers weight loss. Also, it is not difficult to follow and if you are in a stage of carb-cycling it will break this pattern. Sounds pretty good, right?
The 5 Day Pouch Test should never leave you feeling hungry. You can eat as much of the prescribed menu as you want during the day to satiate hungry and prevent snacking on slider foods and/or white carbs. You must drink a minimum of 64 ounces of water each day. A reduction of caffeinated beverages is suggested, but do not stop caffeine cold turkey.
Weight loss is not the intent of the 5 Day Pouch Test, however, many who have tried this plan report a significant drop in weight. More importantly they celebrate a renewed sense of control over their pouch and eating habits and easily transition back to a healthy post-surgical weight loss way of eating.
Below you will find a brief list of the menu for each day. Please click the "Read more" links for further detail and hints and tips that will enable your success with the 5 Day Pouch Test.
Days One & Two: Liquid Protein
low-carb protein shakes, broth, clear or cream soups, sugar-free gelatin and pudding. Read more.
Day 3: Soft Protein
canned fish (tuna or salmon) eggs, fresh soft fish (tilapia, sole, orange roughy. Read more.
Day 4: Firm Protein
ground meat (turkey, beef, chicken, lamb), shellfish, scallops, lobster, fresh salmon or halibut. Read more.
Day 5: Solid Protein
white meat poultry, beef steak, pork, lamb, wild game
Read more.
Good luck! I believe you are going to like the results when you give this plan an honest try.
Cheers!
Kaye Bailey
There is a lot more on the site, this is just the intro of the site- there looks like there is lots more!
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03-15-2008, 01:16 PM
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#2 | | Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 52
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Don't see how eating certain things on certain days can possibly tell you anything about how well your band is working.
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03-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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#3 | | Gwen in WA
Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 35
Posts: 283
City: Spokane State: WA |
This is a gastric bypass thing. They can't change the size of their pouch like we can by adjusting the band. We can stretch our pouches too with overeating, but that often can be reversed with an unfill and rest, then we are back to our old pouch.
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03-23-2008, 09:18 PM
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#4 | | White06
Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 35
Posts: 145
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I too thought this might just be for gastic bypass patients but after reading from their webpage I think this might be a good tool for those of us who have gone off our plan to give us a new jumpstart???
What do ya'll think?
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03-24-2008, 06:40 AM
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#5 | | Registered User
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I think it is a good "carb detox" plan. If we start to find too many carbs creeping in to our daily intake, following a plan like that can help us get back on track.
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03-24-2008, 06:48 AM
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#6 | | White06
Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 35
Posts: 145
State: Alabama |
I didnt think about that but...YEAH!!!
__________________ "When they said this wasn't gonna be easy, I wished I had been listening." Banded: October 12, 2006 10/30/06 1st fill .2cc* 12/29/06 2nd fill .6cc 2/7/07 3rd fill .5cc* 4/4/07 4th fill .3cc 9/27/07 5th fill .4 cc |
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06-13-2008, 12:26 PM
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#7 | | Banded 2/18/08
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 44
State: New Jersey | Give it a try!
I am trying this 5 day pouch test to see if it works for me. I also thought that this is only for gastric bypass patients. I don't have a carbohydrate problem, and I have been sticking to my band rules for the most part.
One person I talked to in the chat room tried this test and lost 5 lbs. in three days. Also, someone at my doctor's support group meeting mentioned this test and lost some weight, so it peaked my interest to find out what this is all about. I was encouraged by the 5 lb. weight loss, so I am trying this out for myself. I figured, this surely won't hurt me to do so!
This is day one of the pouch test for me, liquids. I am planning to have 3 or 4 shakes today, and I am drinking clear liquids in between. Tomorrow I will have the sugar free jello and sugar free pudding. If I find any significant results from this test, I will let you all know. Why not give it a try, too?
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06-13-2008, 04:55 PM
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#8 | | Registered User
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It worked for me. My restriction was improved, but not ideal, and I lost three pounds!! it wasn't difficult, but man did I have bad breath by day 5!!! KETOSIS!!!!
__________________ Banding on 11/19/07 by Dr. Craig Chang in Victoria, Texas. 1st fill (Jan. 11, 2008) = 3 cc 2nd fill (March 14, 2008) = 1 cc 3rd fill (June 13, 2008) = 1 cc COMPLETE UNFILL (August 6, 2008) due to gallbladder surgery and complications 4th fill (August 20, 2008) = 4 cc Yippee!!! 5th fill (September 17, 2008) = 1 cc |
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06-14-2008, 07:50 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 33
Posts: 52
State: MD |
Hi! My sisters have both had RNY and I've had the lap band. Their doc recommended this when my sister needed a jumpstart getting back on the right path.
I'm going to do it with her. The doc said that it would help our metabolism. I don't see how it could hurt. I think the only deviation for the band is that we should wait an hour after eating to drink where a RNY patient can drink in 30 minutes. Good luck!
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06-17-2008, 07:38 PM
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#10 | | Registered User
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I read the site and can't help but wonder who wrote it? It is written in such poorly written English that I doubt it is an educated professional. I am with the pp who asked, "how will eating certain foods on different days tell you how well your band is working?"
Take that site as one person's opinion. If it works for you, fine, but I doubt it is "professional advice".
ETA: For anyone who is striving for ketosis, please do some research on it. Ketosis is NOT a good thing!
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06-18-2008, 10:56 AM
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#11 | | Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 49
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I'm sure that's why they only recommend 5 days. Ketosis is the reason why I avoid the Adkins diet. I just don't think it's healthy long term. MANY of the people I know who did it, now have cholesterol problems months after jetting off of it. Good enough reason for me to avoid it.
__________________ Banding on 11/19/07 by Dr. Craig Chang in Victoria, Texas. 1st fill (Jan. 11, 2008) = 3 cc 2nd fill (March 14, 2008) = 1 cc 3rd fill (June 13, 2008) = 1 cc COMPLETE UNFILL (August 6, 2008) due to gallbladder surgery and complications 4th fill (August 20, 2008) = 4 cc Yippee!!! 5th fill (September 17, 2008) = 1 cc |
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06-25-2008, 04:29 PM
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#12 | | Banded 2/18/08
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Originally Posted by Puddin499 I am trying this 5 day pouch test to see if it works for me. I also thought that this is only for gastric bypass patients. I don't have a carbohydrate problem, and I have been sticking to my band rules for the most part.
One person I talked to in the chat room tried this test and lost 5 lbs. in three days. Also, someone at my doctor's support group meeting mentioned this test and lost some weight, so it peaked my interest to find out what this is all about. I was encouraged by the 5 lb. weight loss, so I am trying this out for myself. I figured, this surely won't hurt me to do so!
This is day one of the pouch test for me, liquids. I am planning to have 3 or 4 shakes today, and I am drinking clear liquids in between. Tomorrow I will have the sugar free jello and sugar free pudding. If I find any significant results from this test, I will let you all know. Why not give it a try, too?  | Well, I tried this 5-day pouch test, and by day 3 I had lost 4 lbs. I found that I had trouble sticking to the all protein requirements for days 4 and 5. While I was happy with the weight loss, unfortunately, when I stopped the test, I had gained back the 4 lbs. lost plus an additional 4 pounds! Needless to say I was not at all happy about that, as you can already imagine. I didn't notice a reduction in hunger or notice my pouch "tightening." I am now back to following the regular band rules, and I've dropped 4 of those 8 lbs. Now I'm back to where I started. I know I wanted to try this out to see what would happen, but this didn't work for me. You can follow the 5 day pouch test at your own discretion, but I do believe it's for the gastric bypass patients, not us bandsters.
__________________ Surgery performed by Dr. Ajay Goyal, Director of Bariatric Surgery and Associate Director of Minimally Invasive Surgery at Overlook Hospital in Summit, New Jersey. www.njbariatriccenter.com Weight Loss Tickers  |
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06-27-2008, 08:27 PM
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#13 | | Sweet freedom!
Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 38
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Thanks for being a "guinea pig", Puddin and for posting your results. Sorry it didn't work. Good luck getting those other 4 pounds off.
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06-28-2008, 08:47 AM
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#14 | | Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
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State: Virginia |
I have also read the website and been very skeptical... they do however have some might tasty looking recipes that I am going to try when I can eat food again!!
Not much for mushies and after 14 days its hard to rotate things around!!
GL
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06-28-2008, 05:22 PM
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#15 | | Registered User
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Ketosis is not the same as ketoacidosis.
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