Slow Losers - Unite!

AthinnerDenise · 12-21-2007, 01:30 PM

Yesterday I finally lost 2 lbs . I worked out at the gym really hard.

Then a fiend of mine invited me over and it turned out she made chocolate fondue. Of course, I couldn't resist.

I am going to plan evenings out from now on until I reach my goa, that don't involve food of any kind. I will ask ahead of time if there will be food there.

I use lap band talk when I am craving something. I can come here and spend hours reading posts and not think about eating, just how I want to be determined to get the rest of this off. I think after the first of the year, I am going to go to the gym twice
a day, for about 3 days out of the week.

bandster_1007 · 12-21-2007, 02:34 PM

aversion therapy would be effective i think in a percentage of cases (although i have never done a study..i would like to). it is backed by the principal of negative reinforcement (google it..you'll find lots of information). i do not know of any particular study or if aversion therapy is even a word. it is something i have thought of (although i'm sure it is not an original thought). if you force yourself to do something that you do not like with a behavior that you do not like, and you do it consistently, you will begin to associate the negative with that behavior.

if you think about it, the band has basically the same philosophy. once we are to restriction, if we eat too much, we will hurt, and therefore, we will not want to eat it again. humans are trainable just like animals, we just have the ability to train ourselves. actually, with the band, a lot of people with have an aversion to a particular food due to one incidence. however, even according to my doctor, it is important to try again one day because your band changes.

people learn amazingly fast, and we do not want to do anything that causes us pain or discomfort. so eat chocolate and then eat lima beans (i gag when i eat lima beans).

i'm going to try this actually starting next week..we will see what happens. i will either stop liking chocolate, or i will start liking lima beans, either way it is a positive outcome.

many many people, can recollect a time when they had an aversion to food..for example, even though the taste of cottage cheese is not bad, i absolutely cannot eat it because once when i was a child, i ate a whole container of it (first time i ate it), and my belly hurt for a week. i was 5 and i have not eaten cottage cheese since (unless it is cooked like in lasagna). it is the same concept.

AthinnerDenise · 12-21-2007, 07:19 PM

I have done aversion therapy with pizza. I had a piece of pizza a
few months ago. I threw up for 2 solid hours. Makes me never ever want to try pizza again.

ButlerBand · 12-21-2007, 08:50 PM

:cry did you make yourself thow up for 2 hours?

AthinnerDenise · 12-22-2007, 02:18 AM

No, I did not make myself throw up. The pizza got stuck and I couldn't get it all up. It stayed stuck and kept throwing up a little bit at a time until it all finally got cleared and it finally stopped. I was in pain and I was miserable.

SPEED RACER · 12-24-2007, 07:50 PM

Happy Holidays To All And To All A Good Night!:)

nonad · 12-24-2007, 10:57 PM

I'm new on here and i'm not sure i know what i'm doing.

nonad · 12-24-2007, 11:58 PM

anyone there?

SequoiaHealth · 12-25-2007, 11:28 AM

Hi Kim:
Like all things in life, there is always cause and effect. If you are not getting the results you seek first make sure they are reasonable and then secondly, make sure you are following the rules. I have worked with over a hundred Lap Band patients and see both the "successes" and the "failures." Every single time someone is losing weight very slowly or not at all; one of the pieces of their weight loss puzzle is either missing or out of balance.

My suggestion would be to spend time looking for answers and solutions and not banding together with like minded people. Remember the success rule... find successful people and emulate them in any personal or professional venture you undertake.

More to come...

Linda · 12-25-2007, 07:21 PM

Who is this person telling us we don't need to be in a group???? I have always been a slow loser but I still don't appreciate someone telling me I can't join a group of like minded people. We are all in this together and we don't put people down, we try to encourage them and cheer them on when they do good and stand with them when they are down and having problems. I was banded 10/26/06 and have lost 35 pounds so far and for the last six months have struggled but am not giving up EVER, it is just taking me longer than I thought when first banded, but eventually I will get there and so will everyone else in this group. So Here is to all the slow losers out there, be patient and keep on working for your goal. Linda

SPEED RACER · 12-25-2007, 07:23 PM

I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THIS TOO. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING WT LOSS WITH THE BAND, FOOD QUESTIONS OR ANY OLE QUESTION JUST ASK. SOMEONE WILL BE BY AT SOME TIME AND ANSWER IT FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS OR COMPLAINTS POST THEM TOO. PEOPLE ARE ON SOMETIMES AND SOMETIMES ALL THE TIME. GO BACK AND READ SOME OLD POSTS THEY HELPED ME A LOT. THIS SITE IS FOR SLOW LOSERS. I WAS BANDED 11/30/2006 LOST 40 LBS INITIALLY GAINED BACK 10 AND HAVE BEEN AT A PLATEAU FOR 6 MONTHS NOW. VERY FRUSTRATING BUT MY ANSWER TO MY PROBLEMS IS NOT ENOUGH TRIPS TO THE GYM. SO TO THE GYM I GO FOR MY NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION. I JUST WISH I HAD SOMEONE TO GO WITH I HAVE NO MOTIVATION. ONCE THE KIDS GET ON THE BUS IT TAKES A BULLDOZER TO GET ME UP AND OUT OF THE HOUSE UNLESS I HAVE TO WORK WHICH IS ONLY 2 DAYS A WEEK. BEST OF LUCK AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND EVERYBODY ON THIS SITE<img src="http://www.LapBandTalk.com/images/smilies/happy.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" smilieid="60" class="inlineimg" /><img src="http://www.LapBandTalk.com/images/smilies/omg.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Omg" smilieid="167" class="inlineimg" />

SPEED RACER · 12-25-2007, 07:28 PM

:angryLINDA,

I AGREE WITH YOU TOO WHO IS THIS PERSON TELLING US WHAT TO DO. WHO IS SHE TO GET ON THIS THREAD AND PUSH US DOWN. SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S FROM SOME PROFESSIONAL PLACE OUT THERE. BUT, PROFESSIONAL OR NOT SHE HAS NO RIGHT PUTTING US DOWN. WE SUPPORT EACHOTHER AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. THANKS FOR YOUR OPINION.

NewSho · 12-26-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SequoiaHealth

Hi Kim:Like all things in life, there is always cause and effect. If you are not getting the results you seek first make sure they are reasonable and then secondly, make sure you are following the rules. I have worked with over a hundred Lap Band patients and see both the "successes" and the "failures." Every single time someone is losing weight very slowly or not at all; one of the pieces of their weight loss puzzle is either missing or out of balance. <more unsolicited commentary>...

Who is this Sequoia person? I have also worked with, approved, and followed more than a hundred Lap Band patients. Guess what, even slow losers are folks who are actually following the Band rules. Maybe the missing piece of the puzzle is just a slow metabolism or something that's not an error on the patient's part. I'm tired of hearing "so-called" medical professionals blame patients for being obese - we've had enough blame handed to us. I was a slow loser and eventually I got it worked out. Therefore if there are others who are finding that the scale isn't moving as fast as they would like, why not have them seek fellowship with others in a similar position?Just because someone is a slower-than-average weight loss loser doesn't mean they are not successful. I know this first-hand. So you might have 'worked with' a zillion LapBanders but your testimony isn't any more valuable than one LapBander who has actually been there.

juliegeraci · 12-26-2007, 05:02 PM

SequoaiHealth, my doctor has performed thousands, not hundreds of Lap Band surgeries. I have lost 65% of my body fat the first year. Statistically that is quite common. I am a slow loser. I lost 40 lbs preop and 65 post op the first year. I love this forum for support. Not everyone hits their goals the first year. My surgeon is very pleased with my results.

Linda · 12-26-2007, 06:06 PM

Thanks for your opinions, I still feel we all need each other. I am having a hard time with work, kids, stress and lots of other things to deal with an am not eating or exercising right, so I know why I am not losing as well as I should but am not beating myself up about it. Hopefully it will all smooth itself out soon and I will get going again. Thanks for all your support. Linda