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Old 06-16-2008, 06:29 PM   #1
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went for a defill today and I think they took out too much....

so last tuesday I went for my fourth fill. It put me at 6.5ccs in a 10cc band. over the last week, I have hardly been able to keep any food down. This week has been the first time I actually couldn't sleep because I was up with indegestion and had to get up in the middle of the night to PB.

Today, I mushed up scrambled eggs, and even a few bites was too much, and I got stuck. PB'd it up, then the orange juice came back up, and decided "ok, that's it, a week of this really isn't fun and i'm actually hungry." Waited til lunch, had chicken broth and a couple noodles, and "blech" - PB again.

So I went for a defill at 230pm. I said "i hear that even .2 ccs can make a huge difference." she said "well, if you're not keeping liquids down, then .2 ccs won't be enough." so she took out .5 ccs.

well, i got home and was able to eat 3 chicken wings, a 1/2 slice of pizza, small salad and a cup of edamame. Seems like way too much food, seeing as though I couldn't even keep liquids down just a few hours ago.

Does it sound like I probably could have a tiny bit put back? I lost 6 pounds last week, which was awesome, but not very fun. I PB;d up some pretty good food! :) seemed like such a waste... :) But now it seemed to go down way too easily. I've decided to stop eating for the night, but I probably could go eat more. Likely because I've been starving myself all week.....

Your thoughts fellow bandsters?
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1st Fill April 21/08 - 3ccs, 2nd Fill May 6/08 - 2ccs (5cc total)
3rd Fill May 22/08 - .75ccs (5.75cc total)
4th Fill June 10/08 - .75ccs (6.5cc total) too tight....
5th DE-fill June 16/08 - (.5ccs) (back to 6.0cc)
6th Fill June 26/08 0 .25ccs (6.25 total)

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Old 06-16-2008, 06:48 PM   #2
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we were banded on the same day!!

i just had my 2nd fill on june 7th and i really thought i was over-filled. i could drink just fine but i couldn't keep any food down at all. unfortunately i live 4 hours away from my doctor and couldn't go in for in for an unfill.

9 days later i'm finally able to eat a little (around 3 bites) and keep it down. i think i was just so swollen and probably still am and that's why i couldn't keep anything down.

it seems like both of our doctors are pretty aggressive when it comes to the amount of fills. i would definitely go back and have those .3cc's added back! doesn't seem right that you went from not being able to eat anything to eating that much!
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:30 PM   #3
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so last tuesday I went for my fourth fill. It put me at 6.5ccs in a 10cc band. over the last week, I have hardly been able to keep any food down. This week has been the first time I actually couldn't sleep because I was up with indegestion and had to get up in the middle of the night to PB.

Today, I mushed up scrambled eggs, and even a few bites was too much, and I got stuck. PB'd it up, then the orange juice came back up, and decided "ok, that's it, a week of this really isn't fun and i'm actually hungry." Waited til lunch, had chicken broth and a couple noodles, and "blech" - PB again.

So I went for a defill at 230pm. I said "i hear that even .2 ccs can make a huge difference." she said "well, if you're not keeping liquids down, then .2 ccs won't be enough." so she took out .5 ccs.

well, i got home and was able to eat 3 chicken wings, a 1/2 slice of pizza, small salad and a cup of edamame. Seems like way too much food, seeing as though I couldn't even keep liquids down just a few hours ago.

Does it sound like I probably could have a tiny bit put back? I lost 6 pounds last week, which was awesome, but not very fun. I PB;d up some pretty good food! :) seemed like such a waste... :) But now it seemed to go down way too easily. I've decided to stop eating for the night, but I probably could go eat more. Likely because I've been starving myself all week.....

Your thoughts fellow bandsters?
actually I don't think that was much food!!! think about how many chicken wings you would have eaten before the band... I think the choices were poor but not a lot of food....re think this before you ask for more....

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Old 06-17-2008, 05:32 PM   #4
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Golly.. doesn't that stink!!! I wonder when we will ever reach that "sweet spot" that so many talk about.

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I'm SO restricion-envious! I am 15 months post-op, am approaching fill #8, and still haven't found my sweet spot. I LOVE PB'ing!!!!!
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:41 AM   #6
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You may want to wait a week or two before going back in for a fill. 1/2 (.5) a cc isn't really that much. Give yourself a little break, eat healthy, and go back for a fill but maybe start with only .25 (1/4) cc.

I was having trouble a few weeks ago simular to yours and I had an unfill. Doc took 1cc out. I knew as soon as he said it it was too much. But I've delt with it for a few weeks. Yes, I eat more than I think I should but not nearly as much as pre-band. I go tuesday to get some fill put back in. Only asking for 1/2 cc. I don't like staying up at night with heartburn.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:26 AM   #7
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I had a fill on Wednesday the 11th, everything was good.... I woke up Thursday morning and couldn't even swallow my own spit. I was miserable I threw up everything all day, even had to pull over on the side of the road because I was gagging from all of the slime (nice huh!), thought I was just swollen so Friday morning got up felt pretty good cooked an egg and had two bites I was done, thirty minutes later it was all coming back up... I couldn't drink I couldn't do anything I was miserable... So I went and had a unfill, my normal Dr. was not there and obviously the dr. there did not want to mess with me so he just put me back to where I was before the fill, I was irritated because he was busy and didn't want to mess with me...... Oh well, I can eat anything now!!! I just can't get back in to get a fill until July 28th, but I will work thru it I would rather control myself than let the band control me, and that is what it was doing I have never been so miserable in my life..... I did lose 5 pounds.....
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IMHO the comments on this issue point out the hazards of trying to rush too rapidly into what that best fill level may be.

That 'sweet spot' seem to be a moving target as far as my own experience indicates.

With a 4cc band, any changes in the amount of fill in my case has been very obvious.

Even .1cc makes a huge difference in comfort, PBs and other issues.

Add the irritability of the soft tissue Os area, various stages of hydration and hormonal fluctuations, and the "Bandster Ship" becomes less stationary and immutable.

This is a marathon not a sprint. Fill levels can not be randomly turned up and down like the volume knob on a stereo. I believe it takes time for the body to adapt to whatever degree of constriction the Band offers.

Learning to manage the Band and fill level for maximum comfort and effectiveness requires careful observation, moderation and discipline, just like our dietary choices.
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UPDATE: So yes, on Friday, June 27, I went for a re-fill, but only .25 ccs. Its only been four days, but i'm liking how this feels. If i dont chew or eat too big of a bite, I can feel the food get stuck, but it does go down. After a 1/2 can of tuna or three pork ribs, I am satisfied. I've been able to nibble on an omelette all day. Have had prawns, eggs, chicken, peanut butter, fish, etc. this week and no PBing. I'll ride this fill amount out, but I like how this feels.
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3rd Fill May 22/08 - .75ccs (5.75cc total)
4th Fill June 10/08 - .75ccs (6.5cc total) too tight....
5th DE-fill June 16/08 - (.5ccs) (back to 6.0cc)
6th Fill June 26/08 0 .25ccs (6.25 total)

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Fills can be very fickle. I am down .02 with my unfill and I'm starving. .02 or .03 can make a difference.
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