Hey Flip. I recommend going to this website for Dr. Ortiz in Mexico. www.obesitycontrolcenter.com . HOWEVER, I haven't had my surgery yet. I will go Next Friday!! YAYAYA! Others who have gone to him and the testimonials on the website are amazing! I was a self pay and they are $8,500 with no hidden costs which is about half or a fourth of what you will pay in the U.S. I checked a local hospital in NJ and the hospitalization alone was $13,000, thats not including the Surgeon or the anisthesiologist (sp). I am excited cuz hubby wants to go so we are flying in to San Diego and the escort is picking us up and driving us to Mexico. There is a message board on that site also. GO check it out.